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Participant Feedback
Kyoto Trip in April 2002
We sent a questionnaire to all seven members of our April trip, and here are their responses. Where possible and desirable, we have adjusted the November trip to reflect improvements based on this feedback.


1. Overall, please rate the following items on a scale of 1 (poor) to 10 (excellent) and feel free to add comments under any of the items:

General logistics: 10, 8, 9, 20

Communication prior to the trip: 10, 8, 9, 10, Excellent
Comments:
· Loved getting something from Gary to whet our appetite for the trip
· Send the Kyoto Visitor's Guide early with hotel and ryokan marked. Maybe indicate some of the other stops. The maps in the Visitor's guide were the best.
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Considering your personal interests in the planning: 10, 9, 8, 9, Excellent
Comments:
· Great time shopping, not just at the markets, but at the stores too
· Tour of sake brewery would have been nice as well as more hands on cooking. I am still confused when I go to a Japanese grocery store.
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Communication during the trip: 10, 10, 9, 7, Excellent
Comments:
Flexibility is the key to this, not good to relay too much information in case plans change
· There were a few times when the communication was not clear. For example, breakfast arrangements at the ryokan. We never did have meals prepared at the ryokan. Also, the return time to the airport was changed and pushed too close to the departure time for my comfort. I would have preferred to leave sooner.
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Price of the trip: 10, 10, 10, 10, 8
Comments
· Excellent, a bargain
· I would pay more next time (and I would have brought more spending money) too!)
· I thought the price was very reasonable.
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Quality of service during the trip: 10, 10, 10, 9, Excellent
Comments:
· The character of the Japanese people is "quality", it was so much more than I expected coming from our culture. Gary and Nancy made us feel like we were the only important things going on in their lives during our stay.
· I thought the service was excellent. Both you and Gary did a great job.
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Variety of things scheduled: 10, 7, 8, 9, Very good
Comments:
· How about a written list of alternate places (suggestions) to attend, with cost, and location for free days? I liked getting Gary's "what to do in Kyoto", but not having been there, I didn't know what was in the area, out of the area, cost.... etc.
· The variety of events scheduled was good but it would be better to offer two parallel track events so that each person's trip could be a little more customized. For example, I would have been happy to take a few more classes and given up some of the sightseeing.
· I was sorry to miss the textile museum and the handicrafts center
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Palace Side Hotel: 10, 10, 9, 8
Comments:
· I'd be willing to pay a little more for a room with a bigger bathroom, and with Japanese breakfasts or buffet available every day.
· A great place to begin the transition to Japanese "ways". Liked the meeting room, didn't like the restaurant much. Really liked the rooms. If people want a bigger room, fine, I liked the small one; I wanted to remember that I was not in Kansas!
· The accommodations were fine. It might be nice to have the option to upgrade to a larger room.
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Temple Markets: 8, 10, 10, 9
Comments:
· Too bad about the rain at the first market, but not your fault.
· Would have preferred not to do one on the day after we arrived. I would have like the option of a later start (I actually had trouble getting to sleep and was not up early) and since it was my first time to Japan some kind of more guided orientation type activities. Like walking in neighborhoods, some temples - of course it would really have been nice to have gotten some sunshine!!
· Liked the introduction meeting each morning to understand how the market was laid out (and where the bathrooms were located!) I liked being able to stay there longer if we liked or going somewhere else by taxi and meeting the group later that evening for dinner to talk over the day.
· Of course this was my favorite. I love shopping and this was a shopper's paradise.
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Party at Gary's: 10, 9, 10, 10, Very good
Comments:
· This was great. Loved his house, food and best of all delightful students.
· This was our opportunity to see a "real" Japanese house, something strangely different from our western architecture. He has a beautiful house and he should be proud to have people over to see it. But like most of our meals...too much food! Great to meet other Japanese folks and work on their English -- to be their experimental Americans. Great fun helping to find the right words...
· It was nice to get together in an informal atmosphere. Gary's students and friends were very nice. I enjoyed spending the time with our group.
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Kyoto City tour day: 6, 10, 5, 9, Very good
Comments:
· Again since my first time to Japan/Kyoto - it would have been good to get more information - historical, architectural, religious - any sort of point of view - since I didn't bring anything to it. With the crowds after the first temple, it was hard to focus. Maybe we should have done all the temple first things - one at a time. But the rock garden at the first temple (Ryoanji) was fantastic and the lunch was the best! In fact, several half-day tours in different neighborhoods might have worked.
· Visiting the temples? I get so confused we did so many great things. I loved having the Japanese students try to interview us in English. The temples and gardens were beautiful and serene and I wouldn't want to miss them on subsequent tours.
· I'd rather have spent a half-day on the Philosopher's path and perhaps investigated some of the temples there. The article Gary sent would make a great addition to a packet sent prior to the trip.
· Very enjoyable. I really liked the walk along the philosopher's path. I would have like more time to explore all the small shops.
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Kyoto Countryside tour day: 7, 8, 10, 7
Comments:
· A long day, with not too much to see. Miyama was mildly interesting, but we spent too much time there. A day trip to Nara would be better.
· It was a nice day - but not as memorable as the others. The drive to the village was spectacular and the thatched houses were neat. But after that I would have liked to spend less time in the van and more walking around. Lunch wasn't that good and the walk up to the temple felt rushed because we didn't want to hold the group up.
· Far too long. Perhaps the workshop on vegetable dying would have been fun and still have given us a taste of the countryside. I did love Miyama.
· Even through this was a long drive in the country, it was well worth the ride. The "bus", limo was luxurious but not for someone who easily gets carsick. The views are wonderful but the roads are windy. Perhaps the trip could be in reverse or start earlier so that we could have spent more time at the second temple which had the incline, I would like to have walked it. Make sure folks buy plenty of that green tea candy in the wrapper that you eat! I think this is the only place that we found it.
· It is a nice option for those who want to spend the day on the road. If we hadn't gone on the trip, I would not have found the green tea candy but I would have rather stayed in the city and spend time shopping near Kyoto Tower and walking around town.
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Translators/Guides: 5, 8, 10
Comments:
· Aside from the students at Gary's house, I would have liked more opportunity to meet Japanese people. I know there were guides on most activities, but somehow there wasn't as much interaction as I would have liked. Perhaps if we had broken up into smaller groups it would have been better.
· You and Gary were excellent.
· I give them an 8 just because they are not professionals, however, they were very good at helping to answer our questions. If there were professional translators for some of these events and they were narrating everything, would that be more expensive? I personally did not find the need. I had most of my questions answered.
· The translators we had for the stencil class were very helpful. I enjoyed talking with them. The translator for the countryside tour although very pleasant was not as helpful.
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Sumie/stencil workshop: 8, 10, 9, 10
Comments:
· Interesting, but only just barely. I'd rather learn about and try to do calligraphy than stenciling.
· Delightful artist and home. Enjoyable. Again if it could have been put into perspective of history of these crafts - we got a little feel of it when she said she wasn't a calligrapher - but my general ignorance of these crafts wasn't greatly abated.
· A great time, and could have been 1/2 day?
· I really enjoyed the teacher and her husband. They are both extremely talented. The photographer's gallery was an added treat.
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Cooking workshop: 9+, 5, 7
Comments:
· Very good, well worth the trip. The boat ride was also very good, plus the visit to the shrine with all the carved statues.
· What a wonderful experience - the house, grounds, presentation of the meal, chef - just would have liked more hands on - either with him or elsewhere.
· I enjoyed the trip but it was very smoky and I got a headache which lasted all day. The food was so interesting though, and beautifully presented. I most enjoyed the train ride, the boat ride and the trip up the mountain to the temples with the Buddha carvings. There seemed to be many interesting places in that town that I want to spend more time when we go next year!
· I enjoyed most of the food but the cooking portion was a disappointment. The smoke detracted a lot from my enjoyment.
· The experience was terrific. I loved seeing the authentic setting, cooking, and meal. The smoke problem was terrible. But, small battery operated fans could have helped. Or - we could have brought our own fans. Anything that moved the air would have helped. I'd hate to have missed the experience.
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ndigo Workshop: 10, 10, 10, 9
Comments:
· Very good, for me it was one of the highlights
· The best workshop. We got to see all the wonderful textiles and hear about his family and then get our hands dirty.
· Don't take this one off the agenda. In fact, put this one ahead of the temple market so folks can understand what they are looking at and what they might want to buy.
· I really enjoyed the class. I would like to have learned more about shibori.
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Breakfasts: 8, 8+, 6, 8
Comments:
· Would have liked to try the option at the Ryokan.
· The buffet breakfasts at the Palace Side were fine, but the western breakfasts from the menu were so-so. The buffet at the hotel in Gion was also good.
· I am not a breakfast person but I found out that there is a Starbucks just a few blocks away from our first hotel that opened up at 8 am. The Starbucks near the Ryokan however didn't open up till 9 am. I enjoyed the coffee in our room and the convenience stores in Japan are not like the ones' here. They have the best peanut cream sandwiches! I brought 6 of them home and a jar of the peanut cream. Someone else who normally eats breakfast would have to comment. Have coffee will travel just fine. (Don't miss the green tea frappaccinos at Starbucks!)
· I was disappointed not to have a traditional breakfast at the ryokan.
· I usually don't each much for breakfast so the breakfasts were fine for me. The occasional buffet was nice.
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Lunches: 8, 10, 8, 8
Comments:
· Excellent, particularly the vegetarian lunch at the Temple
· All very good except the one in the countryside. The vegetarian one at the temple was fantastic!!
· Great food everywhere. Enjoyed the small eateries near the shopping districts and temple markets.
· Trish and I didn't do all that well on our own.
· They were good.
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Dinners: 8, 10, 10, 10
Comments:
· Appreciated the variety and the insider's selections from Nancy which we would never have found on our own.
· TOO MUCH FOOD! I ate so much! And I lost 3 pounds. The courses just kept coming and they were beautiful in presentation, even the fish heads. I recommend the cheek meat, very flavorful and sweet. The eyeballs are for those who in the 70's liked that "squirt" gum! You have to be adventurous and be willing to try lots of different things, but you don't have to try everything. I didn't like the sea anemone or the tiny squid sushi (looked like noodles with eyeballs). But there were plenty of great things to try. The "dinner on a stick night" was great fun and not as filling as those several course dinners. The rotating sushi bar, a great time. Glad we skipped the noodle places, I didn't think we missed anything there. I can't think of anything that I wish I had tried and didn't get a chance...oh yea, the sake, I would like to have gone to a sake factory to learn about and sample sake.
· Excellent
· Terrific job of finding a range of experiences.
· Spending time together at dinner was very nice and the variety of restaurants was great.



2. Would you have wanted more or less free (unscheduled) time?
· Yes, there were a couple of other museums I would have liked to visit. I only got to the National Museum.
· Good mix. Seemed like we always had the option of being on our own.
· I would like to have about the same unscheduled time, however, if there could have been a list of suggestions such as museum's, gardens, art or craft workshops, then those individual times could have been spent differently. I am not saying that the 10 or more trips to the 100 yen store were a waste of time. I also suggest you purchase a few teakettle handles to hook your bags on for carrying ease. Sure you get a lot of funny looks, but you can smile because the circulation to your fingers is not cut off by the weight of your purchases in the plastic bag.
· Seemed about right
· I think the amount of free time was just right. I would have liked perhaps other options during the scheduled events. As I mentioned before, I would have been willing to pay for additional classes. The manju class I took on the one free day was a lot of fun.

3. Meals: which are "must do" for next time and which ones should we consider dropping?
· I was happy with all the meals. The kushiage was particularly enjoyable.
· Being a food maven, I have already covered this above.
· ? I think I already addressed this above. Find our where the local coffee shops are located and the time they open up.
· The Apollo is a must do. I know that most of the group really enjoyed the sushi/sashimi. I preferred the restaurants where I had other options.
· The temple veggie lunch was terrific. I can't think of any to drop. Loved the Apollo

4. Hotel: any suggestions for making the stay at the Palace Side more enjoyable?
· Bigger bathrooms. Buffet breakfasts every day. Better telephone lines to allow Internet access from the rooms.
· Nope. Internet access, hotel location friendly staff and washing machine were all pluses. Only nit, it was not clear when breakfast would be a buffet or not and the buffet was definitely more desirable!!
· Suggest that people have a calling card plan with their local long distance carrier. My MCI card worked just fine once I figured our what the in country phone number was. Don't buy a phone card, they are expensive ($8) and are only good for about what seemed about 10 minutes. I would not have wanted a larger room and I liked the privacy of having a room to myself. Liked the laundry facilities. The computer however was not cooperative for some of us who didn't have a hotmail account set up for communication back in the states. The time difference made phone calling difficult, but not impossible.
· If I had known there was a laundry, I'd have packed lighter.
· The staff was great. The room was adequate but some might want the option to upgrade to a larger room. Let the group know that the internet is available and tell them to get their accounts set up for remote access.

5. Ryokan: any suggestions for making the stay at the Rikiya more enjoyable?
· I found it a burden, not enjoyable in any way. I wouldn't stay there again.
· We lucked out with the private bath - though it appeared to be semi-private since there was another door which could access it. I may have not been so happy in a shared bath situation - if I had expected private,
· Schedule breakfast.
· I enjoyed the Ryokan also. My room was much larger and I had closet space to store items.
· This was the best place. More enjoyable? For me I can't think of anything. Great location, I enjoyed the large expansive room and I didn't feel crowded with the three of us in there. Liked that we had the gathering table in our room and that the others on the trip knew where to gather for coffee in the morning or relax after an outing and talk about the day.

6. Workshops: which are "must do" for next time and which ones should we consider dropping?
· Must do--Aizenkobo (indigo) and the cooking workshop. Drop--stenciling
· Indigo dying and cooking were terrific. The sumie and stenciling was interesting but definitely third in a "must do" category.
· A weaving workshop, dyeing workshop, a kimono factory (scheduled before the second market day preferable), the rice museum, the arts and craft museum, the sake factories to name just a few.
· All are must do. I'd even add a couple. I'd like to do paper making, maybe a weaving one, and a REAL sumie painting one, though I enjoyed the stencil workshop.
· The indigo class was great- definitely a must do. The stencil class was also very enjoyable.

7. What was the single best thing you experienced on the trip?
· It's hard to pick out one thing. I enjoyed the markets, the meals, two of the workshops and the people.
· This is a very tough question -Vegetarian lunch outside at Daitokuji, followed very very closely by indigo dying workshop and very closely by our chef's lunch in the country. See? - One non-food thing.
· Besides the peanut sandwiches and the green tea candy...? Watching my sister and admiring her for all she did to make this trip a great time for all of us.
· The "cooking lesson." I'll forget the smoke, but not the rest of the experience.
· I enjoyed so much it is hard to pick one thing. I really enjoyed the night that I went alone to Kodaiji Temple to see the gardens at night. It was very peaceful and humbling. Looking up though the lighted bamboo grove was amazing.

8. What was the most challenging part(s) of the trip for you?
· Having to sit on the floor
· Not knowing enough about what I was looking at. Getting up early for the first temple market. Handling the crowds at the temples on the city tour.
· The return trip to the airport was a little stressful. I prefer arriving a little more in advance than we did.
· Floor sitting, smoke at the lunch.
· The smoked lunch...

9. Is there anything you would recommend that others do to prepare for the trip?
· Bring shoes that slip off and on without laces; bring a back brace if there is any history of back problems
· You might have a reading list. I read some books that I picked out on my own- Memories of a Geisha and Lady and the Monk and lots of guidebooks. You might have come up with others that could help.
· I think it would be helpful if you generated a list prior to the trip on some basics on Japanese culture and etiquette. The list could include that the group's interactions also reflect on you and Gary. You might also want to mention that the Japanese are never direct and that this is considered rude. I observed some of us being very direct and I thought this might have offended some of the Japanese we interacted with.
· Some way to prepare for floor sitting. Some recommendations for reading such as better travel guides - the Lonely Planet was terrific. Also some suggestions about textile techniques such as the Japanese Stencil Dyeing book by Eisha Nakano. Others on kimono might have helped me figure out what I was looking at.
· Bring more money than you think you will spend (especially if you are a shopper). It was difficult to pay for some things with a charge card. Change your money early; wear shoes that you can take on and off easily -- .for some folks that may mean foot powder. Ha ha! If you are going to wear sandals, put a pair of socks in your bag to slip on. Bring a raincoat that you can roll up and put in a bag as opposed to an umbrella. Bring layers of clothing. T-shirts and sweaters. Modest colors and styles.
· Bring a coin purse because the money there is mostly coins. The smallest paper bill I believe was worth about $8.00 so there are none similar to ones or fives, they are coins. Pack 2 suitcases -- one inside the other for the way over and then you will have a large suitcase for the way home. Shipping things is expensive. A box about 2x2x2 (feet) will cost about $50.00 and as much as $75.00 depending on weight.
· Melitonin or something like that for help sleeping the first few nights.
· Bring little gifts for the people you will meet like the artist, the indigo dye man, the translators, and even the children who are so excited to meet an English speaking American. Something from the state you live in or just something American. American flag stickers, a unique candy item, stuff that says, "Made in the USA", picture postcards of your state. Nothing big, just something fun...you will be so surprised by the reactions you will get.... a great feeling.


10. Other comments or suggestions for us:
· Both you and Gary have a lot of knowledge about the Japan and the Japanese from living there. Since my personal experience as a tourist was somewhat limited, it would have been good if you could have shared even more of your experiences. I know this is a little vague. Examples which I found interesting was how many tatami mats Nancy had in her apt when she lived in Japan. I started counting mats after that. Also when looking at the Buddha in Ohara, you said that they are usually asymmetrical-but that one wasn't. I had a great time - but would like to feel wiser about Japan than I do. This may be a lot to ask for in a few weeks and I may have picked up more than I realized.
· Please continue to offer these trips. I think that there are alot of people who would love this type of trip. You may want to expand the audience. Weavers, Knitters and Dyers usually have disposable income and would love to go on one of these trips to learn more about their craft.
· Do the museum of traditional folk art before the workshops so we have a context in which to locate the workshops. Spend a half-day on the Philosophers Path and visit these temples - perhaps with a tea stop mid-way. Leave the larger temples for free days and make recommendations about the ones you like best. It was a terrific trip!! Thank you both for all your time and effort.
· It was such a wonderful experience I look forward to a trip next year and if we do all the same things, I would still enjoy my time in Japan.

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